Squelching Rumors

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Nestor
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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Nestor » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:00 am America/Denver

Truth said:
Pretending to desire a compromise of the opposing parties, they sought a conference with Nehemiah, and invited him to meet them in a village on the plain of Ono. But enlightened by the Holy Spirit as to their real purpose, he refused. "I sent messengers unto them," he writes, "saying, I am
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doing a great work, so that I cannot come down: why should the work cease, whilst I leave it, and come down to you?" But the tempters were persistent. Four times they sent a message of similar import, and each time they received the same answer. {PK 653.2}


Good advice.

In attacking the characters of Linda, Bob and Gailon, you-all are comming down off the wall to divert your time effort and energy to a mission that God has not given you.

spend your efforts, time and energy in accomplishing the mission that you say God has given 3-ABN.

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Truth » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:46 pm America/Denver

Excuse me? Really? Most of the posters who have stood up for 3ABN all these years are not workers AT 3ABN or even live there. Therefore, we are not coming down off any wall, except in your imagination.

How do you know God has not given us this mission. Are you the Judge? As long as 3ABN is broadcasting the 3-angels messages, I will stand up for them and the truth they preach.

Really Gregory, why not volunteer at your local hospital or library. I'm sure it would make your day much nicer.

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Nestor » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:42 pm America/Denver

Truth said:
How do you know God has not given us this mission.


I have already answered that question.

If you believe that your mission from God is to smear the characters of Linda, rather than proclaim the good news of salvation, Bob and Gailon, so be it. I certainly will not be able to convince you differently.

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Truth » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:11 pm America/Denver

I'm not smearing anyone--they smear themselves by their own actions and words.

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Truth » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:34 am America/Denver

Some seem to think what is posted here is "smearing" the characters of those against 3ABN, such as Linda, Pickle and Joy.

Well, what about what DARVO just posted over on AT? That Tommy supposedly made some kind of gay advances towards two men while a Pastor at Dunn Loring. Really? What kind of snotty dirty comment is that without any proof that this is true? It is SMEARING the character of Tommy Shelton, something Pickle and the rest have felt so free to do in the past several years. This is only one small example of the filth and lewdness that has come out of AdventTalk forum.

And DARVO says he was a Pastor at Dunn Loring? He is a great example of how Pastors should gossip and tell things about people on public forums to try to blacken their reputations? No wonder Americans are sick to death of Christianity in this country when their leaders talk and act this way.

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Nestor » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:13 pm America/Denver

Truth, you make my point.

If it is wrong for one side to do something that they do, does that justify the other side responding in kind?

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Truth » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:41 am America/Denver

Gregory, you will never get it as long as you parley with Pickle and company.

I am reminded of the story of King Ahab when he blamed Elijah and said "Art thou he that troubleth Israel?"

"In his first faltering words, "Art thou he that troubleth Isreal?" he [Ahab] unconsciously reveals the inmost feelings of his heart. Ahab knew that it was by the word of God that the heavens had become as brass, yet he sought to cast upon the prophet the blame for the heavy judgments resting on the land. It is natural for the wrongdoer to hold the messengers of God responsible for the calamities that come as the sure result of a departure from the way of righteousness. Those who place themselves in Satan's power are unable to see things as God sees them. When the mirror of truth is held up before them, they become indignant at the thought of receiving reproof." PK 139-140

I will no longer converse with you on this topic.

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Truth » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:40 pm America/Denver

DARVO, I apologize for the misunderstanding that I thought you were a Pastor. However, I wasn't trying to read what I WANTED in what you said. You are wrong there. I just cannot stand to read undocumented gossip about someone else--anyone. Because Tommy Shelton has been charged doesn't make him fair game to all sorts of accusations that are based on heresay.

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Nestor » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:13 pm America/Denver

Truth said:
I will no longer converse with you on this topic.



I can understand that statement. If you follow the conversation there has not been any real conversation. Myself and those who have responded to me have all talked over the heads of the other party to the conversation.

For my part, I have focused on one issue which in general terms those who have responded to me have not addressed.

Those who have responded to me have generally focused on one issue to which I have not addressed.

When that happens, no real conversation takes place.

I wil say that those who have responded to me have raised valid issues in general terms. My failure to address them has been due to personal reasons on my part and not because I simply dismissed the issues raised.

I assume the same for those who have not addressed the issues that I hve addressed. IOW I have assumed that it ws due to personal decisions that they made, probably of a similar nature to the reasons that I had for my decisions.

Anyway, I am here unless I am thrown out. I donot expect that I will post anyting that would cause me to be thrown out. So, I am here. I will read. IF I Chose, I will post.

May you all hae a blessed week.

Gregory

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Re: Squelching Rumors

Postby Lilly » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:30 am America/Denver

As professed Christians we are to be living life in the spiritual realm. As I've mentioned before, the bible says we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities. When we as professed Christians slip from the spiritual realm we fall back down the to physical realm of this world. That's when we get deceived.
The leadership that crucified Jesus was obviously not making a spirit filled decision. Yet many believed they were doing the right thing. Professed Jewish leaders made it their jobs to "kill" the Son of God because they did not have the spiritual sense to see they were being used of the devil! They did not realize that if they could actually kill Jesus that they would have destroyed all life as there is no life without the Son of God!
Instead of looking through spiritual eyes to recognize that Jesus was the Son of God they saw him as a threat and therefore an enemy to them because they could not control him. And because they had given their hearts to the devil who is the prince of this world they did not see the good Jesus was doing among the people in phyiscal healing and spiritual teaching.
Satan has used the same principals of evil to fight against God on this earth for the last six thousand years.
The same is happening today. 3ABN is preaching and teaching the everlasting gospel to planet earth but because there are people who cannot control them and have lost their spiritual eyesight, they have made it their job to do physical battle which is the devils work!
I really believe that the Pickles and Joys of this earth would have been among the crowd when Jesus was on earth inciting the crowd with all the bad rumors they had heard from "good sources" about Jesus. Didn't Jesus claim to be the son of God? How ridicules! As an investigator Joy found that he not only was not the son of God, but that Jesus was born in a lowly stable. The nerve of this man Jesus to make claims of being the son of God! Pickles sources further heard that Jesus was planning on anarchy as sources told Pickle that Jesus was going to destroy the temple and build it back in 3 days. And how dare this man who had never been to the seminar and was not even an ordained minister dare teach and preach as though he was sent from God!
And what about poor Ellen White had P/J been alive when she was on earth. Can you imagine what those investigators would have found out about her??
No one at 3ABN is perfect, but the ministry has a 26 year history of giving the 3 Angels messages to the world and no world church leader has ever refuted that. In fact world President Ted Wilson has publically expressed his thanks to 3ABN for their work around the world. And July 21 he will be on 3ABN live with DS and JG.
If people want to live their lives in the physical instead of the spiritual realm then Satan will help us concoct all kinds of bad things to say about other people and give us plenty of physical battles to fight, all the while leading us away from salvation and eternal life with Jesus. The choice is ours to make.


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