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Pickle/Joy and the Remnant Documents

Postby Cynthia » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:02 am America/Denver

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Re: Pickle/Joy and the Remnant Documents

Postby Cynthia » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:33 am America/Denver

After the lawsuit was dismissed without prejudice.. Pickle and Joy in their attempt to get their claimed costs and expenses reimbursed by 3abn for defending themselves ( and asking that their time and work as well as Lynette Rhode's and Laird Heal's be compensated) also filed the following related motion with the court :

Document 153 120808.pdf
DEFENDANTS’ MOTION TO FILE UNDER SEAL
Filed 12/08/08
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Document 154 120808.pdf
DEFENDANTS’ MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF
DEFENDANTS’ MOTION TO FILE UNDER SEAL
Filed 12/08/08
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Document 155 120808.pdf
AFFIDAVIT OF ROBERT PICKLE
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Re: Pickle/Joy and the Remnant Documents

Postby Cynthia » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:50 am America/Denver

The following was filed by 3abn 's Attorney Gregory Simpson in response to their motion as well as their internet posts made in regards to that containing unsupported and false claims and accusations about the remnant Documents... as well as their posted death threats.
Document 158 12 22 08.pdf
PLAINTIFFS’ OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS’
MOTION TO FILE UNDER SEAL
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AFFIDAVIT OF M. GREGORY SIMPSON
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Re: Pickle/Joy and the Remnant Documents

Postby Cynthia » Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:00 am America/Denver

Pickle and Joy filed the following reply in response to 3abns opposition to their motion to file the Remnant documents under seal.

The Judges ruling is still pending.

Document 161 12 28 08.pdf
Defendants' Reply Memorandum in Support of Defendants' Motion to file under seal Filed 12/29/08
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Affidavit of Robert Pickle & attached Exhibits
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Re: Pickle/Joy and the Remnant Documents

Postby Cynthia » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:15 am America/Denver

The Court issued a ruling in the above motion on April 15th, 2009.

Filed & Entered: 04/15/2009
Full docket text:
Judge F. Dennis Saylor, IV: Electronic ORDER entered DENYING [153] Motion for Leave to File under seal. The documents do not appear to be relevant and were not considered by the Court in connection with the underlying dispute.


As it has been over 4 mos since Pickle and Joy filed their motion. The Motion and opposition to it are quoted below. The supporting memorandums and affidavits are included in the files above.

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT DISTRICT OF MASSACHUSETTS
Case No.: 07-40098-FDS

Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc., an Illinois non-profit corporation, and Danny Lee Shelton, individually, ) Plaintiffs,

v.

Gailon Arthur Joy and Robert Pickle, Defendants.


Case 4:07-cv-40098-FDS Document 153 Filed 12/08/2008
DEFENDANTS’ MOTION TO FILE UNDER SEAL

Defendants seek leave of the Court to file under seal Exhibit A to the Affidavit of Robert Pickle filed with Defendants’ Reply Memorandum in Support of Defendants’ Motion to Impose Costs upon the Plaintiffs, with an accompanying affidavit. Exhibit A consists of documents produced by Remnant Publications, Inc. (hereafter “Remnant”) pertaining to kickbacks and/or royalties paid by Remnant to DLS Publishing, Inc. (hereafter “DLS”) from 2005 through 2007. These documents were marked confidential by Remnant’s counsel.

Pursuant to Local Rule 7.2(a), the Defendants believe the above material should be impounded until or unless the Court determines that the material does not fit the qualifications of ¶ 1 of the confidentiality order of the instant case. (Doc. 60). Since the Defendants are not the designating party and prefer full disclosure, they request that if the material does fit the qualifications of ¶ 1, that it be impounded until further order of the Court.

WHEREFORE, the Defendants pray the Court to allow Exhibit A and accompanying affidavit to be filed under seal, and to remain sealed until or unless the Court determines that the material does not fit the qualifications of ¶ 1 of the confidentiality order of the instant case. If the material does fit the qualifications of ¶ 1, the Defendants pray the Court to allow it to remain impounded until further order of the Court.

Dated: December 8, 2008
and
Respectfully submitted,
/s/ Gailon Arthur Joy, pro se
Gailon Arthur Joy, pro se
****
****
/s/ Robert Pickle, pro se
Robert Pickle, pro se
****
****
****

LOCAL RULE 7.1 CERTIFICATE
The undersigned hereby attests that the Defendants have complied with the requirements of Local Rule 7.1 by having, in good faith, through counsel conferred with Plaintiffs. Plaintiffs’counsel represented that he did not oppose motions to file under seal documents designated confidential by the Plaintiffs, but did oppose efforts to challenge confidentiality designations.
Dated: December 8, 2008
/s/ Bob Pick

____________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________


Case 4:07-cv-40098-FDS Document 158 Filed 12/22/2008
PLAINTIFFS’ OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS’ MOTION TO FILE UNDER SEAL

This constitutes the Plaintiffs’ Opposition to Defendants’ Motion to File Under Seal (Doc. 153). Over the relevancy objections of Remnant Publications, Inc. and the Plaintiffs, Defendants convinced the District Court for the Western District of Michigan to allow them access to records regarding dealings between Remnant and the Plaintiffs. However, the Michigan court expressly ordered that the Remnant documents were being produced “subject to the Protective Order already entered in the underlying case.”
(Simpson Aff. Ex. 1).

On October 30, 2008, as part of its order dismissing the case, this Court ordered Defendants to return all confidential documents. (Electronic Clerk’s Notes for proceedings held before Judge F. Dennis Saylor, IV – Affidavit of M. Gregory Simpson Ex. 2). Defendants refused to comply with this Court’s order, both with respect to the Remnant documents at issue in this motion and with respect to all other documents designated as confidential under Judge Hillman’s Protective Order entered on April 17,2008 (Doc. 60). (See Simpson Aff. Exs. 3 & 4). Judge Hillman’s order had permitted the designation of documents as “confidential” whether they were produced by a party or a third party. (Doc. 60 at pp. 1-2). The Remnant documents were designated as confidential by both Remnant and Plaintiffs. They were ordered produced with that express understanding.

Instead of complying with this Court’s order to return the Remnant documents,Defendants began talking freely about them on the internet, stating falsely that they prove wrongdoing by the Plaintiffs. (See Simpson Aff. Exs. 5 and 6). At the same time, Defendant Joy began making veiled death threats against the Plaintiffs, suggesting that Plaintiff Shelton was like a conquered king and “you know what they do with conquered kings? Ask the czar and his entire family!!!” (Simpson Aff. Ex. 6), and referring to his actions against Shelton and supporters of the Plaintiffs as “ethnic cleansing.” (Simpson
Aff. Ex. 7).

Now, in a rather transparent effort to publicize documents that had no relevance to the underlying lawsuit and even less relevance to the motion at hand, Defendants move to file Exhibit A to the Affidavit of Robert Pickle (Doc. 152), under seal. The benefit of filing the document under seal is somewhat diminished, however, by Defendants’ description of Exhibit A as “a selection of the documents from Remnant [Publications,Inc.] pertaining to kickbacks and/or royalties from Remnant to DLS Publishing, Inc….” The point of filing these documents under seal is obviously undermined by Defendants’characterization of what they represent. (In point of fact, the Remnant documents reflect perfectly legal transactions that have been fully vetted by certified public accountants and evidence no wrongdoing by anybody).

Quite frankly, Defendants have been talking about these documents on the internet for some time now. The only apparent purpose of this motion is to provide Defendants a forum to publicly characterize confidential documents that they have been ordered to return to Defendants. By calling these documents evidence of “kickbacks and/or royalties” in a public filing, the Defendants can now quote themselves endlessly on the internet, as they tend to do, with citation to a public filing for support. They have abused the judicial process hopefully for the last time.

The motion should be denied because Exhibit A does not contain admissible evidence. Evidence is admissible if and only if it is relevant. Fed. R. Evid. 402. Evidence is relevant if it tends to make the existence of any fact that is of consequence to the determination of the action more probable or less probable than it would be without the evidence. Fed. R. Evid. 401.

This case is over. It has been dismissed. The only remaining issue is the pending motion by Defendants for reimbursement of “costs,” which to them means every expense they incurred that is metaphysically related to this case, including Mr. Pickle’s cost of showering at a camp site while supposedly traveling to investigate allegations related to the lawsuit. The Court is well-advised of the parties’ positions with respect to that motion, and has no need of Mr. Pickle’s laughably twisted take on the royalty payments reflected in the Remnant documents.

Pickle’s affidavit indicates that the Remnant documents somehow show that the lawsuit itself was frivolous. This contention is itself frivolous. The lawsuit mentions royalties in just two allegations: Complaint ¶ 46(h) and 46(i) – alleging that Defendants defamed Plaintiffs by stating that Shelton refused to disclose royalties in divorce proceedings. There was never any dispute that Remnant paid royalties. The issue was whether these were properly disclosed. Defendants have never produced even an iota of evidence that the Remnant royalty payments were improperly characterized in any court proceeding or in IRS reporting. All the evidence has been to the contrary.

Defendants’ motion for costs should not become a backdoor means of arguing the merits of the case. The point of dismissing the lawsuit was to stop the lawsuit prior to reaching a determination on the merits, to spare the resources of the Court and the parties. Defendants did not see fit to offer Exhibit A in connection with that motion, and should not be allowed to add new arguments and evidence in support of their position now. If the merits of a dismissed lawsuit are to be addressed in the context of a motion for costs,there is no opportunity for Plaintiffs to respond adequately. Further, the benefit of
dismissing the case would be lost if Plaintiffs were now forced to produce all the evidence that supported the case in what would be an endless procession of affidavits from the many witnesses who would have proven Plaintiffs claims had the case proceeded to a resolution on the merits.

If the Court is inclined to consider Exhibit A, then Plaintiffs agree that it should be filed under seal. The best course of action would be to deny Defendants permission to file it at all.
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